消防车走天下 How do you solve a problem like China? (China Itinerary, and some important introductions).

26 August 2010

When Steve first spoke of his plan of driving a Fire Engine around the world, we all knew immediately it was going to happen. This was Steve, his talk is never cheap and the “Why” was clear.

So the idea was quickly accepted, over a few pints as these things often are, and the attention quickly turned to “which way”.

Steve had already produced a wipe clean map, wipe able pens from his bag as if to emphasis that it was possible, he was serious and the rest of the evening was spent drawing routes all over it.

It was always going to be East of course. It was the logical direction to chase the summer sun and it was a long drive before we hit any water. Not to mention Phileas Fogg, Michael Palin and the Long Way Round boys had all gone East.

But which way East? Hours were spent poured over maps, discussing the route in the company of numerous friends and family and he was permanently in possession of the map.

A big map of the world was subsequently purchased and permanently spread over the FTFE HQ’s dinner table. Black lines were drawn in and rubbed out time and time again. Everything was considered. I can remember one evening David Orders turning up and proclaiming no one would take this expedition seriously unless we “manned up” and drove straight across the Andes and through the Amazon. He picked up a black marker and promptly drew a horizontal line through the middle of South America……

It soon became clear that due to the obvious issues in the Middle East meant that Russia looked the likely or only option. There was a route through Turkey, Iran, Pakistan and India that was technically possible on paper but the area is so volatile and concerns were raised over the number of borders we would have to cross making it an admin nightmare. So pretty much the route that the expedition is now following was agreed and presented by Steve to his father Garth for the very first time for sign off. A nervous Steve didn’t leave anything to chance for this meeting. He had to have all the answers. Garth Moore was a man that did a proper job and would need to see a detailed outline to take Steve seriously – clearly he knew Steve very well. However Steve needn’t have been concerned as Garth thought it was incredible.

So over the next few months, with some assistance Steve did a massive amount of research. He spoke to just about everybody that he could find that had done any kind of overland expedition for information and advice. There was of course no blue print for this expedition and no library book entitled “How to drive a fire engine around the world”. This really was pioneering stuff.

There were two bits of advice that Steve received on a regular basis, the first that I still think haunts him to this day are the immortal words “Have you thought of this?” which meant the to-do-list being added to or someone stating the obvious. The second was “Don’t do China”.

China had caused numerous headaches to expeditions in the past and many had come to an abrupt halt. This was due to bureaucracy and cost. You can’t just turn up at the border with a VISA and the paperwork. You need to know the people on the ground and it needs to be planned months in advance (6 months to be precise) to ensure all the permits are in place. Steve was painstaking in his research and found a company called NAVO (Nature Adventure Voyage Off-road).

http://www.navo-tour.com/en/aboutus/

To give you an idea of their experience of the last ten overland expeditions that have gone into China driving their own vehicle(s) six have gone with NAVO and the other four had to request NAVO’s help. NAVO began accepting foreign tourists to do the special tourism since 1993. Most guests were from Europe and the United States. They have embarked on diversiform adventure tour, such as Trekking, Self-driving, off-road travel, photography tour, bird-watching tour, Motorcycling tour, learning martial arts tour, etc. Moreover, they are always ready to accept challenges and arrange more special kinds of tours in China. Perfect for FTFE!

Since the autumn of 2009 we have been discussing the expedition with Li Zhuoyun (Karen Lee) who is based at NAVO’s head office in Chengdu, Sichuan province.

Karen, whose vital stats are below, has worked tirelessly exchanging many emails with me and Steve to ensure that the mountain of paperwork and itinerary, were in place to submit an application to the Chinese Government for the necessary permits.

Our first application was refused but some incredible work (and it really needed to be) by Kate Bartishel (Crew member stage 6) liaising with her DVLA contact (who provided excellent advice, support and guidance) meant that the China stage was saved and our second application was successful.

The Vladivostok-Tokyo-Bangkok route that was seriously being looked into could be put on ice. (But remains a contingency – no tempting fate here!).

Ben Lloyd is a good friend of mine and in his own words is an “Ex fund manager having mid life crisis”.

He has lived in china for the last two years learning Mandarin. Last autumn we dispatched Ben as our man on the ground to go and meet with Karen at the NAVO offices in Chengdu and discuss the expedition. This gave us an additional level of comfort, as I’m sure you can appreciate that NAVO was a company that we could trust.

Ben will be joining the expedition as an honoree crew member travelling a few days from Xi’an to Chengdu where he is organizing for us to visit a school and enjoy a typical Sichuan hot pot. Ben’s vital stats are below

In addition to managing the complex application process the legendary Karen, and NAVO’s involvement with FTFE goes much deeper.

NAVO’s head office in Chengdu is on the route, and Karen and the team are hosting a celebration dinner for us when we arrive.

Karen has also arranged for us to visit the firehouse in Chengdu to meet the fire fighters there and park Martha next to a Chinese Fire Engine. Karen describes comparing them both as “a very interesting thing”

NAVO gave FTFE a discount on the cost of their service and have donated £500 to FTFE.

NAVO have very kindly paid the vehicle deposit that must be paid when we enter China, rather than leaving the crew to find £10,000 GBP. This will be paid back by the Chinese government three months after our exit and NAVO are only charging us a tiny amount of interest for the cost of the loan and the admin involved.

Lastly, it is a stipulation of our government permit that we are accompanied by a guide the entire time we are in China. NAVO have provided the guide and I’m delighted to introduce a man you’re going to be seeing a lot of, Honouree crew member Mr Sun Ji  

I asked Mr Sun Ji to introduce himself and say a few words;

“I’m Sun Ji, who will be a part of your team in China, it’s my pleasure and lucky to experience this kind of journey with you, I think it will be very special. Wonderful to hear that your whole journey is carbon neutral. I learnt inform from the attachments in your email and from the website, I should say I respect every fire fighters who save people from emergency, I used to want to be a fireman but it’s difficult in China. Your charity journey to memory a man who devotes his life in this profession and also raises money for helping more people is so meaningful. As I’m working for some NGOs (charities) in China, I will assist you to do some activities with them if you want.”

Mr Sun Ji will arrive at Beijing in 5th Sep to start the enormous amount of paperwork involved which will take him 2 days.

He will then arrive at to Erenhot (Mongolia/China border crossing) on 7th or 8th September to meet the crew on 9th September.

FTFE crew, HQ and NAVO are closely monitoring the traffic situation between Erenhot and Beijing that Chris Moore (Crew member stage 1) alerted the team to. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11062708

Paul Barham

The vital statistics for Karen and our honoree crew members for FTFE does China

 

Sun Ji

Age:30

Height:70kg

Profession: environment and culture protection

Sporting Loves & Achievements: badminton, hiking

Most Annoying Habit: wasting food and smoking a lot

Most Overused phrase: haven’t 

Favourite Sandwich:sandwich with many vegetable but actually prefer Chinese food of course

Favourite Fire Engine: I haven’t as I don’t know about it

Top skills for the Expedition :Chinese-speaking and some work experience in charity field

Biggest Fear: Snake and woman crying

Top 3 items to take: money, computer and cloth

Top 3 songs for the radio: love county music and a Chinese singer’s all song, whose name is Xuwei

Reasons for going: it’s a meaningful journey

Li Zhuoyun (Karen lee)

Age: 26

Height: 46kg

Profession: adventure tour in China (Trekking, self-driving, Charity tour, Volunteer project program)

Sporting Loves & Achievements: Swimming

Most Annoying Habit: So far, no.

Most Overused phrase: Are you crazy?

Favourite Sandwich: Chief sandwich  

Favourite Fire Engine: Our team’s fire engine will be absolutely my favorite one.

Top skills for the Expedition: Know about the rules of how to run self-driving tour in China and can help to arrange the expedition.  

Biggest Fear: Acrophobia

Top 3 items to take: what a pity that I need to stay in the office to deal with the paper work.

Top 3 songs for the radio:  ‘Because u love me” of Celine Dion, “The one you love” of Glenn Frey and ‘You are not alone’ of Michael Jackson

Reasons for going: I was moved by the story of the fireman who saved so many people’s life.

Ben Lloyd (杰明)

Age 31

Height 6ft 3

Profession Ex fund manager having mid life crisis.

Sporting Loves & Achievements – Loves any and every sport. Triathlon, Adventure races, Isle of Man record holder (javelin). 

Most Annoying Habit Waking up early every day

Most Overused phrase  That’s awesome

Favourite Sandwich  Chicken and pesto

Favourite Fire Engine Mini Martha

Top skills for the Expedition  Can order dumplings and beer in Chinese

Biggest Fear-  Being beaten at badminton by an 8 year old girl

Top 3 items to take – Trainers, Instant Noodles, Tsingtao. 

Day Date Place Distances  Notes ROAD
thu 09.09.2010 Erenhot – arrive border n/a enter china, deal with the process in CIQ. Please be sure to arrive the border during Mon-Thur, because the process can’t be done in weekend.  
fri 10.09.2010 Erenhot to Jining (wulanchabu) 341km finish the process in the border and head to Jining ( Wulanchabu). National road G208
sat 11.09.2010 Jining-Beijing 381Km Arrive Beijing today. Beijing is very big and the distance depends on where you will stay. National road G110/Or Express way .
sun 12.09.2010 Beijing Rest tourist day – go and see Tiananmen Square, the Fobidden Palace, and enjoy a beer in Sanlitun bar area.  
mon 13.09.2010 Beijing Rest tourist day – visit Great Wall and then return for an evening in Beijing  
tue 14.09.2010 BJ to Datong 358km Drive to ‘see the Yungang grottos’ , National road G109/Or  Express way .
wed 15.09.2010 Datong to Mount Wutai 290km visit hanging temple at Hunyuan on the way, stay overnight at the foot of Mt.Wutai Provincial road
thu 16.09.2010 Mount Wutai-Pingyao 350km visit Pingyao ancient town National road G208/ Or Express way
fri 17.09.2010 Pingyao to Huashan   443km Possible climb of Mt Huashan at night Dayun Express way
sat 18.09.2010 Huashan to Xi’an 140km Possible climb of Mt Huashan, visit terracota warriors Natioal road G310/Or Express way
sun 19.09.2010 Xi’an Rest Xi’an  
mon 20.09.2010 Xi’an to Guangyuan  433km one day drive to Guangyuan Xi’Han Express way
tue 21.09.2010 Guangyuan to Langzhong 150km stay in Langzhong ancient town – old Chinese customs etc. Natonal road G212
wed 22.09.2010 Langzhong to Chengdu 443km celebratory evening meal with NAVO National road G212+Cheng’nan express way
thu 23.09.2010 Chengdu – pandas – pengzhou 80km (approx) 8am start to see the Panda’s Research base. Then drive to Pengzhou in pm (about an hour away). Pm with school kids, eve with ben’s friends hot pot dinner. Express way
fri 24.09.2010 Pengzhou to Chengdu 80km (approx) Meet Chinese fire fighters and media interviews Express way
sat 25.09.2010 Chengdu to Leshan/Mt. Emeishan 195km chengdu-leshan about 2.5 hours driving time, and visit Leshan Giant buddha about 3 -4 hours , and then about 1 hours driving time to the foot of  Mt.Emei. Express way
sun 26.09.2010 Mt. Emeishan(Golden summit)-Leshan -Zigong 260km see the sunraise in Golden summit and back to the feet of Mt.Emei,  head to Zigong Express way
mon 27.09.2010  Zigong-Yibing-Zhaotong 320km visit the Zigong dinasor museum, and then head to Yibin.  The road condition is not very good. Express way+national road
tue 28.09.2010 Zhaotong- Kunming 400km very good road condition express way.. Express way
wed 29.09.2010 Kunming-Jianshui 260km visit the ancient town. Kunyu Express way
thu 30.09.2010 Jianshui-yuanyang 90km Jianshui to Yuanyang, rest day at rice terraces. Provincial road/Or express way
fri 01.10.2010 yuangyang-Yuxi-Yuangjiang 270km about 6 hours driving,  From Yuan yang to Jianshui the road condition is not goo, but from Jianshui-Yuxi-Yuanjiang., the road condition is good with express way in most part. Express way
sat 02.10.2010 Yuanjiang-Pu’er 231km very good road condition express way.   Express way
sun 03.10.2010 Pu’er-Mengla 290km very good road condition express way.   Express way
mon 04.10.2010 Mengla to Mohan (border exit) 52km about 1 hour driving  
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4 Responses to “消防车走天下 How do you solve a problem like China? (China Itinerary, and some important introductions).”

  1. Loving your work! Judging by how meticulous you’ve been with your paperwork and organisation so far, it will be no fault of yours if anything slows you down in China. I’m keeping my fingers crossed for you all. Alex

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  1. […] For more information, please visit their website: The group informative on-line recorded. Here I will not ramble on too much. Paul was so lovely to put my information online, it’s a good advertise and also a great pressure J as I always think he gave out the praise too much earlier. Fortunately, everything is so smooth, and we have very happy memory the 3 days in Chengdu. They even went to the guides’ Sunji’s hometown in Leshan and have the local family with the guide’s parents there. I bet they must be the super stars all the journey in China. I remember they contacted me in Oct last year, Ben came to Chengdu to visit me. I was just back from Thailand, Met Ben in the office and his Chinese is brilliant. Honestly, the situation was not very optimistic at that time, because special vehicles are not allowed to enter China. The process also like what paul wr0te in this blog page […]